COVEN. CALL. TWO.

EMILY TEPPER & LIZ C. DAVIS

LISTEN: "THE ART OF RECEIVING."

PART I: EMILY TEPPER. CLAIRVOYANT HEALER & RITUAL DESIGNER. 

Emily Tepper: Emily Tepper helps you get what you want with fun, grace, and ease. She will change your relationship to manifesting forever with her methods, tools, and power practices, getting you clear on what you want, removing the blocks, and leaving you porous, sparkling, open, and ready to finally receive your desires. She is passionate about the liberating power of self love. She takes you on a journey where you finally stop beating up on yourself so you can get what you want without having to struggle or strain at all. With her background as a dancer, hands on healer, bodyworker, intuitive, coach, & designer of experiences, Emily is lovingly become known as the hipster mystic, utilizing her healing powers like a psychic surgeon at the intersection of body, mind and spirit. When you coach with Emily, you get new access to your body body’s ability to provide all your answers - as the address to your soul, and you Master your Total Body Intelligence, learning to get what you want quickly with your intuition, psychic skills (yes, you have them!), body smarts, and feminine energy. www.lifemanifestation.com

PART II. ENERGETIC HEALER & SEX COACH LIZ DAVIS. 

Liz Davis: Elizabeth Davis is a healer, yoga teacher, and vital energy coach.  Through her work Elizabeth has been able to help clients empower themselves on a mental, physical and spiritual level.  Her strength is to help you reframe your thoughts, actions, emotions, and beliefs.  Elizabeth's wish is to serve, empower, and energize, so you can have the life you truly want and deserve. "Spirituality is everything to me because to me, everything is spiritual.   Meaning, everything has beauty and magic, even in the darkest places.  Why I am so passionate about this work is because my entire life has changed because of it.  I am able to look at myself in the mirror and be in LOVE with who is looking back at me.  I am excited to look at the shadowy parts of you because that is where there is so much growth and opportunity." www.lizcdavis.com


TRANSCRIPT... 

Sarah:    Okay, everyone, welcome to Coven Night II. I'm thrilled for tonight it's going to be really juicy and bring in a lot of themes on the feminine power of reception. Our power to receive. Before we start let's close our eyes and get really comfortable and really relaxed which is one of the powers of reception: when we are relaxed we can receive, let's just take a moment and ask that this work be of the highest for us and the feminine and the other. That we're healed and inspired by this work. That we feel guided and safe and held in this work. 

    That it serves the high healing of the feminine, the earth and her creatures. That it brings us into wholeness and oneness. Asking the powers of the north, the earth, for grounding and protection. The powers of the east and the air for our inspiration. The powers of the south and the fire for our passion and desire for this work. The water that we may be reborn in the womb of this work, and self and spirit that we are one with goddess within and without & with each other tonight. 

    Without further ado, I'm going to introduce my friend Emily Tepper who is an amazing, I want to say manifestatress, almost. A ritual designer. A life transformer. When you go to Emily you're ready to call in your highest desires. You're ready to finally step up to the plate and be big enough to allow your dreams to come true. Emily is a master at rebirth and transformation and walking you through change. She can design a ritual for you that lasts over the course of some time. You can work that through with her but that ritual sends the message to the divine and your subconscious that change is afoot and you're ready to cross the threshold. Without further ado, Hi Emily. 

Emily:    Hi, thank you so much for having me. 

Sarah:    Thank you so much for being on the call. I knew I had to have you on. It was I think, immediately when the Coven Conversations were being born you're someone who's intrigued me since December, when I entered the darkest period of my life that I've had in a very long time. I knew through a friend of a mutual friend of ours, Ruby, at the Numinous, that you are not afraid of the dark. I needed somebody to tell me that everything was going to be okay. I needed somebody to walk me through a dark period in my life. I called you like a drowning woman. 

    I remember I was on my sister's couch in Soho. Bless my sister, but she doesn't understand she hasn't gone through a transformation yet so she didn't understand this dying process I was in. I called you and even though we've never spoken in this lifetime. It was an instant connection where you received me, deeply, and listened. I didn't feel crazy, which is a big part of the work, right? To help someone not feel insane. 

Emily:    Hmm-hmm.

Sarah:    I'd been told that you had written on the dark, helped people through the dark and helped people change their lives. That's what I knew about you at the time and so let's start from your ... let's start, have you ever had a dark night of the soul?

Emily:    Oh, yeah. I have them pretty regularly. I've learned that it's part of the birth/death cycle that's a natural part of the cycle of being a woman. In our heroine's journey to live requires, also, to then be able to die. I really embrace this new model that when I'm going through dark nights of the soul, which are something that I live to embrace as much as my light, shiny, bright moments that I say if I were not crazy or stupid or broken and there were nothing wrong with me, what would be the gem and the value of this dark time? Then went from there.

Sarah:    Do you relate darkness with the feminine?

Emily:    You know, actually I do. I'm currently, I think I shared when we connected I guess yesterday or a couple of days ago, I'm studying Chinese medicine right now. Not every single, culture puts the Yin and the feminine with damp and dark and earth, but many cultures do. I do relate the cyclical or spirylic way of being with the feminine. I don't think there's a Yin without a Yang. There are many cultures, Chinese medicine included that do associate the feminine with the dark. Yeah, the moon.

Sarah:    That's how we met is that I called you in this dark time and I kept saying, "I feel like I'm dying." It's kind of like, "Yeah, you are," right?

Emily:    Yeah. It's like hey, congratulations.

Sarah:    Yeah. Yeah. Faith. As we enter this new moon, which is where it's sort of in the darkest time of the moon phase right now. Do you yourself, participate in new moon rituals or do you hold space for this darkness in anyway?

Emily:    I actually really appreciate that question. I have a really unique approach to the rituals that I designed? I can share more about that approaching that background. I am somebody who does believe that the moon is always full it's just that she shows us different aspects of herself from night to night. 

    I, at the moment, am not attached to the lunar cycle through I don't hold ... Yeah. Even though I am associating the feminine with darkness and dampness and a whole list of other things, I do think for a woman our natural set point is joy. That joy exists because of this natural cycle that we're not taught at this point in history, which is very unusual that we're not taught that right now. 

Sarah:    Would you say joy is our highest, and as I talk to you the thunder is crashing outside and it just got really dark in Taos which seems to happen every time I do these calls. 

Emily:    Oh, that's so cool. 

Sarah:    So cool. I love the darkness and the storms, and it's all part of my witchy nature that change is in the air and that we're not in control. That sort of thing.

Sarah:   Joy is something that I'm newly obsessed with as our highest healing state, and that we're talking about the feminine tonight. I'm really interested in Arthurian legends that we each have a holy grail that will not only heal us but will heal the world once we're in our highest state. In my opinion it's joy. When are cup is full of joy we're right where we're supposed to be and we're found and we can help others find themselves. Tell me how you feel about joy, because it's a buzzword but for me it's that state of total healing for me. 

Emily:    Yeah. I love joy. I think that joy is a very high-vibration state of healing. I'm probably more like an ecology monkey that I think that a broad spectrum of emotions are where it's at. Having a broad bandwidth or an emotional ecology, is the best for our highest state of healing. If you imagine somebody always in joy? It gets weird. I can see-

Sarah:    Yeah, you're right. 

Emily:    Manic. 

Sarah:    I think of that Saturday Night Live skit of "The Joyologist."

Emily:    Yeah. There it just like it gets weird.

Sarah:    Yeah.

Emily:    It is, joy is incredibly medicinal. Joy is like this healing nectar and the value of it is unspeakably poignant, true joy. I guess that when I talk about the darkness it's not that I like to dwell like go sit in the dark and emphasize and live in a darker mood all the time. 

    It's more that I don't think that it gets the credit that it deserves for balancing vibrations and frequencies like joy. Which are so amazing. If you think of the Yin, Yang for example, when you're going around it's because it's constantly moving around the cycle. 

Sarah:    Today, darkness served so well.  I had no energy. I basically slept all day and normally I would feel, if I wasn't really aligned with this work more so than ever these days I would feel like I have to be doing. I have to be doing. 

Emily:    Yeah. 

Sarah:    I deeply trusted this voice that was like, "This restorative is just as "productive," or even more productive than doing. The feeling that I was in was productive. That restoring time is healing. Right?

Emily:    Mm-hmm (affirmative). Oh, yeah, for sure. It's the resting place or the place of being is a very fertile place. There's a lot that has to germinate and process and take root before it, it doesn't always make sense to shoot up like a young green in the ground and go. Sometimes it makes sense but not always. 

Sarah:    Yeah, yeah, right. Let's back up a little bit. You have not always been a healer. You've had many lives in one life and let's start at the beginning. Where did your journey begin?

Emily:    Okay, cool. I came to the profession or the existence or the mantel of healing, kicking and screaming. I was born to really hardcore Western Scientists that were like, "Oh my god, what are we going to do? We have this little girl that talks too much and everything, all the time." I was very much not like them in every aspect. I was running around talking to fairies and plants and dancing and the like. They felt like the situation was loving, wonderful parents just super, super, super Western Scientists. 

    They were like, "Okay, people like you go to art school." I have the privilege of going to art school, which was great, but I was kind of like shuttled and ushered through there because of my personality. More than expressing an innate interest in being a professional artist. Even though I loved being an artist and I identify with that. 

    That was like the beginning of the flow, and then I had a really awesome career as a modern dancer and realized that I was much more interested in the transformation that happens for people and I was already designing rituals for people. I just didn't know what to call it at the time. I was observing that when I would make a dance it was usually on behalf of that person's life circumstances and something really huge would change for them when they were in my dance troupe time and time again. 

    I then found yeah, that I was really comfortable with speaking and thinking and living with my body and body language. It's almost it felt sort of like Pocahontas, the new world. I barely ... I could speak with my body. I was very comfortable with the power and meaning and communication and meaning that came from my body, growing up as a dancer. 

    I was very comfortable gifting that to people or dancers that would be my bodywork clients or dancers in my dance pieces. I then after that set upon a master's degree in designing experiences which I thought would turn this thing into something that non-dancers could understand. That was awesome. I came back to the United States and got a job in branding, just because I had been through a master's program with the word design and experience attached to it. 

    That was the first time I realized that I had mystic and psychic skills. I was doing future forecasting, working for somebody who called herself a future forecaster and doing trend predictions for Fortune 500 companies. I loved the work. I didn't love the clients. I got very sick. I went back to bodywork as a recovery job, and then built-

Sarah:    Can I stop you for a second? 

Emily:    Please. Yeah, go for it. 

Sarah:    Okay, so a couple things. Being so in your body that's like what most of us are trying to is to get to is to get out of our head and get in your body, and I think that you and I have talked about that. Almost like the verbal communication is harder for you than communicating with your body and even listening to your body, right? 

Emily:    Yeah.

Sarah:    Would you say? That's the work of so many healers on this planet are trying to get their clients into their body to hear their own innate wisdom and to hear what their body needs and where it's telling them to go. That's when we learn to hear our own inner compass. That's when a whole new relationship with ourselves and our life takes off, right?

Emily:    Yeah. 

Sarah:    You also ... psychic skills aren't something ... I know a lot of women on this call have them but it's hard to trust them. How do you ... you basically ... I've never heard of a futurist before you and I talked about it so I don't know what that is. I also don't ... I want to talk about what that is and I also want to know how you started to recognize your psychic powers?

Emily:    The first time I really, really started to take my psychic powers seriously was that I was working as a futurist already. Using these skills but not really being real with myself about the skills that I was using to do the job well. I would come home everyday, and I would get a voice in my head that was like, "You need to move. Pack up your stuff." 

    I was like, "What are you talking about? I love my apartment." The voice is like, "This is not your life. This is not your life and you need to pack up and you need to move now." I didn't want to pay attention to it, because I really liked the work I did. I liked my apartment. I liked my paycheck. I liked a lot of stuff.

Sarah:    Right. 

Emily:    I knew the voice was right. That was the voice of my soul but I wasn't giving it credit as such yet. Lo and behold two weeks later I was asleep in my apartment and I'm fine. I'm recovered, but a complete stranger broke into my apartment and attempted assault and rape in my apartment in the middle of the night. I was asleep, alone in my apartment. I beat the person to make a long story short. 

Sarah:    Wow.

Emily:    Was relatively unharmed. After that that was really when I entered the feminine empowerment field. Not that I'd ever wanted to but it felt like I lived so I was okay, "Uncle." Or, "Aunt. I'm on my knees. I'll listen to you now. What do you want me to do?"

Sarah:    Right. That voice was trying to protect you from harm and get you out of the apartment?

Emily:    Hmm-hmm. Yes, which our soul always is. The voice of our soul. 

Sarah:    It's always trying to get us out of harm?

Emily:    Into a place where we're living authentically, which is a set point of joy. Which is why we like joy so much once we're able to experience joy. It is definitely, absolutely, is what our soul wants for us. 

Sarah:    That's like when they say, "Joy is your north star?"   Or Joseph Campbell says, "Follow Your Bliss."  That's what they're talking about. That's leading you home right?  Right. Okay, so after was that as Dani Shapiro calls them, "Tacking points." When we're sailing across the ocean of life, and we change direction- so when that guy broke in and hurt you was that a huge moment of change for you?

Emily:    Huge. Huge. Yeah. 

Sarah:    Okay. In what respect?

Emily:    Huge. I was better prepared to listen to exactly what it said, which I hadn't been before. 

Sarah:    The more you listened would you say that voice got stronger?

Emily:    Yeah, which is a lot to adjust to. The work that I do with the people that like to work with me is to get the spirit, the body, the mind, all on the same page with the Custom Designed Ritual. That really took some time to get my spirit or soul, my mind and my body all on the same page. They liked to chat with each other but not necessarily truly be in alignment and do the same thing. Operate with the same intention.

Sarah:    How do you do that? How do you continue to do that? 

Emily:    I live in ritual work now. Ritual has become lifestyle design for me from the moment I wake up until I fall asleep, and actually even during my dream time, while I'm asleep? I'm 24/7 living in ritual at this point. 

Sarah:    Tell us what ritual is to you.

Emily:    Yeah, ritual is an activity and an experience that you have. You create it and then you have it and it holds an intention. It holds a sacred intention. By living through that segment of time and space and having this experience, having this activity, you are catalyzing change. You are adjusting the energetics. You are creating like a landing pattern. A nest for what you want to land in your lap so that you can switch into having what you want and switch away from chasing what you want. 

Sarah:    Oh, my gosh. Okay, because so many of us feel like we're chasing what we want. You're talking about the power of receiving, right? 

Emily:    Yeah, yeah. Yep.

Sarah:    Okay, how do we ... can you walk us through a day where you're totally in ritual? What a day's like for you?

Emily:    Definitely. You can still be in your doing energy so being receptive and learning how to have what you want and stop chasing what you want, you still use your young, active, fiery, go get 'em energy. You still get to use that energy. You just put that energy in service of your feminine. 

    I would maybe, choose, because I have a very unique approach to the ritual of design. What I wear, my fashion and my food choices and what I'm going to do that day, my calendar for the day will all be about like is this giving me the energetics of what I want? Is this giving me a semantic body experience of the feelings that I want to be feeling? You get very-

Sarah:    No, it's so, but that, you're talking about when you probably have a client like that, and you and I are about to start working together and I'm thrilled. When you have a client like that she probably goes through a ton of transformation once you align her with living in a totally different way, right? She or he? 

Emily:    Yes. It's 99.99 percent of the time a woman, and Marianne Williamson has this awesome quote. "It's not our darkness that we're afraid of it's our light, how bright and wonderful we are that we're afraid of."

   Normally, what you want you, all of us, the universally, what we want is not quite happening yet, because there's something underneath it that either A, needs to die. Or, B, is strangling or bottle necking the energetics of the situation. We're afraid. We're afraid for things to work out. 

    When things work out it's a type of death when things work out. You're no longer yearning for the future to be better. It's accepting what is, is that you, you have to let go of a lot of victim stories and fear-based thoughts in order for things to happen that you actually want to happen and that can feel like a death. 

Sarah:    Right, because it's the death of what we know? Right? That's what change is.

Emily:       The comfort of, "Oh, this kind of sucks but I'm used to it. I know what this is. I've got it." 

Sarah:    "I'm used to things sucking. That I can handle." Right? 

Emily:    Right. Yeah. Yeah.    That's another reason I live in ritual, because if I didn't I would have a much smaller life because I would just cling to what is familiar for me. 

Sarah:    That's what my friend Cherie Healy talks about is getting people out of playing small . You must go through a lot of deaths in order to be reborn bigger, and to think bigger and want bigger and allow bigger. Right? 

Sarah:    You've talked to me about even being afraid of your own power ... you went kicking and screaming into healing.   Will you tell us about that bridge that you walked? 

Emily:    I just started to realize that being in your power doesn't always necessarily mean it feels super good right away. Sometimes, stepping into a new level of our power can feel, at first, incredibly uncomfortable. To learn to bear with and have a seat and ground into that discomfort at first? Let our nervous system expand into it? Is another place that ritual comes in really handy. It's really about getting comfortable with this next iteration of ourself and trusting that the birth/death cycle is incredibly natural for women. 

Sarah:    Are there phases you watch people go through? Are there transformation phases that people walk through? 

Emily:    Yeah. They're a lot like the four seasons, which is, I think, why I've drifted more and more and more towards Daoism and Daoist philosophy and size elements work is that I see the cycle of a woman's life cycle is very much like the four seasons. Inside our body with our menstrual cycle and then outside with developing an identity. Blossoming into it, being in the full, full ovulation. Summertime. Sharing, peaking. And then the autumn and then the winter. 

Sarah:    Do you walk them through the dark part? Are you the hand that they reach for in the dark? 

Emily:    Oh, yeah.

Sarah:    Stay with them through the process of their evolving?

Emily:    Oh, yeah. I'm super into the dark part because it's a shedding and it's a very creative time. There's a lot of art that can be done. There's a lot of really vivid beauty in the reinvention cycle.   It's almost my favorite, part. Really. It's like that's when you get to really get very naked, very fertile, very creative. There's a lot of potential energy when you think of all the energy that a seed has when it's just getting ready to germinate? Very mineral-rich soil. 

Sarah:    You've actually said to me that  you resisted what you've called like woo-woo before? Before, in your past life, right? In one of your past lives in this lifetime?  What brought you into being comfortable with being so out about being a spiritual woman who helps him spiritually and transform? Now, you know at least on the internet and things like that I find that I keep a lot of my spiritual stuff just on Do it Girl, and there's still a part of me, even that feels still kind of closeted. Like, they're going to think I'm crazy.    Like I'm a lunatic. Like I keep that off of my main page.  Right? What's the part of you when did you totally embrace it? Or how did you do that? 

Emily:    Ha, that is a really good question. I am, it was gradual. I know that having that very abrupt wake-up-call to my calling. Where I lived through this attack and then it said, "Okay, you've lived. Now you have to pay attention to me." That's definitely like caused a more abrupt shift? After that it was really to preserve my health. I just wasn't willing to sit in another therapists office or go on another fad diet or have another job that was going to make me sick. I was at more of a fed-up point. 

    Do I want to feel like some people think I'm a little nuts? Or do I want to feel like I'm in a world that's killing me? I chose to put up with the people. I chose to become more and more and more and more articulate and grounded in myself so that I could provide safety for myself and then provide safety for others around me who maybe might be new for a little bit edgy for. 

Sarah: Right. Right. Are you self-taught or have you studied under people for the work that you do?

Emily:    Yeah. Ironically, it's not always about formal education in the mystic world at all, but I, ironically the actors and designing experiences that I got really that was more for like a branding application, but it gave me a lot of structure to think about what is an experience and how do you design your own? 

    Then once I came back to the US, and realized that I was using telepathy, basically, to do the futurist job well, I studied with so, so, so many people. Long, long list of ... and I, to this day, continue to really put in a lot of energy and time into studying with other healers, because I think that's important throughout one's lifetime. Like the lifetime of the healer to continue to study and continue to stay open to learning and studying new approaches.

    Yeah, I've done everything from neurolinguistics programming. Hypnosis and different types of bodywork to visiting different mystics and shamans and coaches. I've been very eager about consuming and digesting every bit of psychic developments.  Sacred geometry, but through and through what I delivered was really, really came from the voice of my soul. Really came from okay, it's great that you're doing all this stuff. I need you to hold still for a minute because there's stuff that has to come just through you. You're going to need and require other experts to get this work heard and to help as many other people as possible remember their natural abilities. To use ritual as a very personal, social technology but you have to hear me and channel this directly. 

Sarah:    Do you believe we're all psychic? 

Emily:    I don't believe we're all psychic. For a long time, actually, as an example, I would date men who were really, really, really, so not psychic. I think for people that are psychic-

Sarah:    You make me laugh.

Emily:    People that are psychic yeah, no I would love dating men that had zero psychic capacity because it was just really quiet.    I was like, "Oh, wow, because there's nothing going on right now." No, I do not believe that we're all psychics. I think that it's very difficult for us. I'm sure that if you're on this call you're very, very emphatic and most likely an intuitive and psychic. If you're attracted to a call called the "The Coven Conversations," and you're on this call you probably are. 

    I will say for all of, for us, it's really hard for us to understand because it's such a beautiful gift and it's such a satisfying, awesome way to experience the world.  I think for us it's really hard to understand that that's not the case for everybody. 

Sarah:    Right, so sometimes you've talked about, you've mentioned being ... I want to get to where you are right now, geographically which is really interesting as far as the rebirth and transformation story, but there's a couple things that I want to bring up.

    First of all the part of me and the part of women on the call are like, still keep our spiritual side in the closet you know? You don't ... for me if you're going along my page, people tag me and stuff. It's like "Witch this," and it's "Witch that."   The cat's out of the bag that I'm psychic. I'm here to de-stigmatize the witch.   That's fine. But it's like I don't come out and say it because of like Joe from high school or that cute guy that I met that I friended that doesn't quite now that my work is this. I'm still worried he thinks it's weird or Joe from high school thinks that if I'm a witch, I sacrifice goats or whatever. Even ... I'm having a photo shoot done next week and because ... I really was moving away from the ego of this work and that's the ego that was shattered this winter was I had a humanitarian awakening. "Let's not just gaze at our navels and manifest boyfriends, but once we look at the power. I started to watch the transformative power of women. I was like well what if we could focus that on the world, you know?" 

    I had one of those awakenings where Angelina Jolie talks about, her humanitarian awakening, when she was filming some movie in Cambodia. She had been this very dark, brooding girl who thought she "had it bad." Then she stepped out of America, and looked around she was like, "Holy shit. I had a bad childhood. Who didn't? Look at the world."

    That's when she really was, "Oh, they're all looking at me anyway. That's like if you're on this call, you probably don't blend in. If they're all looking at me anyway, why don't I go to Africa? They're going to follow me there. Why don't I go to Syria? They're going to follow me there." 

Emily:    Right. 

Sarah:    That's the turning all this as a witch or as a repressed feminine or a woman with a lot of power so she fears herself and others naturally fear her. Once you heal that sphere of yourself that's deeply ingrained because the fear of the feminine we're either like, cage it or rape it, or lock it up or cast it out. Once we feel that and our comfortable with our own powers and start to use them for good that's like when real magic happens. Right? The part, I guess it was a line from Caroline Myss. 

Emily:    Right. I love her. 

Sarah:     I'm sure you do, but sometimes she's super tough. In her crone zone.     She's calling people on their shit. Left and right.

   And she can be a little intense but that's the Crone Zone is they don't have any time to please or make nice.     It's just truth without a chaser. 

Emily:    Yeah. Yeah. Totally.

Sarah:    She says the spiritual life is actually the only life. When I heard that I was like, that, for me, again, the feminine's in the body. I feel that in my body when something's true for me. My whole body was like a slot machine in Vegas. "Ding, ding, ding." It was like. "Okay, I can't keep walking away from this because of what Joe from high school who's probably just a figment in my head because Joe from high school's thinking about himself, just like everybody else."

Emily:    Right.

Sarah:    Because every time I walk away from my path I start to die or like you talked about get sick. Then when I try to normalize to blend in or try to have an easier life or whatever. Yeah, I guess I wanted to bring up that quote. I did get a collective question if a person comes to you looking for rituals for love? Would you say that's the main thing people come to you for? Is calling in, what do they come to you for? What's the biggest question on people's minds?

Emily:    You know, honestly the reason that I decided to go I'm studying a very, very unusual form of acupuncture right now, because I found that people are coming to me mostly for health issues. They want to be around other types of medical intuitive s. That said, when we get sick and develop health issues I believe it's always with an emotional root. Always. That does mean love. 

Sarah:    Right. I agree with you. Some people find that controversial.

Emily:    I know.

Sarah:    When people are sick because of something emotional. But in my life and in the lives of those around me it has been true. 

Emily:    Yes.

Sarah:    For my mother and for myself it is or was a lack of joy. 

Emily:    Hmm-hmm. A lack of joy can kill you.

Sarah:    Yeah, it can. I'm sorry to keep backtracking, my story today is that I had a three-hour past life regression with Mira Kelley this morning.   I'm like one foot in Avalon, one foot here as we talk. 

Emily:    Oh, cool. Love it.

Sarah:    That's what we talked about. Shakti Sunfire said last week on the Coven Call that the word myth is perceived to be untrue. "That's a myth." But that myth might be the truest thing that we have?

Emily:    Oh, absolutely. 

Sarah:    Yeah, my soul life rose to the surface today and it's been banging at my windows for since I moved back to, since I moved to Taos. It's felt like my soul has been in a ghost movie when there's something banging on the windows and you're like, "I don't know if I want to let that in because it could kill me." 

Emily:    Hmm-hmm.

Sarah:    I let it in. You know what I mean?

Emily:    Good. 

Sarah:     I highly suggest past life regressions. I also think that that can be very healing to see something that happened in a past life and be like, that makes so much sense for why I'm stuck in this certain place.

Emily:    Why I'm, we all do certain things, yeah. 

Sarah:    Yeah and who you've been in your past life you're still kind of in that same life. If I was coming to you because I wanted, say I was in love with a man. Is that like crossing the line spiritually to call in a specific person? Or do you, or do we call in like the energy of that person? Or do we call in love? What would you do for that? 

Emily:    Oh, that gets into really interesting conversation that we would get into because the karma comes into the conversation. Is it possible to completely manipulate another human into loving you?  Yes, it is. Is there karma accrual that might withdraw or potentially even over-draw your karma account? Yes, there is. 

Sarah:    What if I didn't want to fuck with that what would we do? I feel like I've actually been leveled karmacially and I'm at a clean slate, honestly. I don't want to accrue more in the bank?

Emily:    Yeah. Adjusting the energetics of the situation is a really good option. We're always affecting the ether, the air the energy between us and the energetic bodies of everyone around us. We're all ascending as one, even though we're all, also, individuals with free will at the same time. If you want to look at more karma-friendly option, it would be to use ritual work to adjust the energetics of the situation, which starts within yourself. 

Sarah:    That seems so much more sustainable. 

Emily:       It really is, because it can also then put you in a flow where you might be at letter A and be like oh I want to skip the alphabet and go to the letter G. If you start going A, B, C, D, E, you might find's actually enough that you don't actually want to ... our minds are modern monkey minds tricks us into something called "End Games." Like saying, I know I want that. When you actually go through the processes with an active agent and energetics you might find out otherwise as you progress through it. 

Sarah:    I think basically why I would come to you is to shift my energy to be open to receiving not a specific person or a specific job or a specific something probably my ego is coveting but allowing abundance in every area of my life like this fear of success we have. Right?

Emily:    Yeah.

Sarah:    This fear of happiness.

Emily:    Fear of success. Yes, fear of happiness, fear of fulfillment, learning ritual as lifestyle, and also, it's not to say never say never. You can want the career and the job and the bank account and the relationship and the house and the private jet. You can want all of that it's to get the yang energy, the masculine energy, the bright light, in service of you maintaining your energetic flow. Not like slamming it and putting duct tape on your energetic feminine flow.

 You're not putting her in the trunk, telling her to not talk or you'll shoot her in the head and then jamming ahead to end gains or like this one thing that you want no matter what.

Sarah:    Right. Right. You've talked about going back t,o a lot of women that I work with are still afraid of their own power and not sure how to work with it.   You've talked, even, about being blown away by your own power, right? What does that feel like to you?

Emily:    I still feel like that, which is sort of one of the my own shadow, edges that I walk with within myself. When clients come for the custom designed ritual, and I walk them through them saying, "Emily this feels like magic. Kindergarten time. This is fun, but I don't know what we're doing. You have this dance you have me doing on this altar." Things happen in their life. It's scary for both of us to name it as true. This happens. You know? I think a lot of women are-

Sarah:    We did that. We made that happen.

Emily:    Yes. And that happened. I actually just got to a place in New York, where I moved away from New York without telling anyone because sometimes I need to go take a little break from myself. It is, it's a lot. It's a lot. 

    It's important to find high-quality role models and at least one person in your intimate circle who really wants your success and really believes in your fullness and your bigness if that's what you want. I do, I have to step away from myself, occasionally. Honestly. Yeah.

Sarah:    Yeah, we talked the other day and I was assuming that you would be back in New York City.   You said, "I took the back door out and nobody really knows that I did this." To me that's the start of like... growing up I didn't know I was a transformation junkie. Hard core, but every movie I watched was a makeover movie that a women left New York for the country.

Emily:    Right. Right.

Sarah:    I didn't know I was watching a feminine awakening where she leaves the patriarchal city.

Emily:    Right. 

Sarah:    Of go-go, do do do.

Emily:    Right. 

Sarah:    Surrenders to the country.     Finds herself. Once she finds her true self she finds true love and realized that the New York boyfriend who treated her like shit wasn't true love. He shows back up in the country. She's like, "No, I know what love really is now." She's got flowers in her hair and like dust on her face.

Emily:    Right.

Sarah:    Or it was like the witch movies like "Practical Magic." 

Emily:    Right.

Sarah:    That we could change our lives. Once I realized we could change our lives I wanted to do it all the fucking time. 

Emily:    Yeah. Right. Yeah.

Sarah:    When I heard you'd done that I was like immediately the movie in my mind starts. Emily's moved to Florida. The city girl moved out with the gators.  You can hear your cicadas and she meets a local fisherman and then-

Emily:    Yeah.

Sarah:    You actually you were coming out of a breakup too, right?    Is that okay to ask about?

Emily:    Yeah. Totally. Hmm-hmm. 

Sarah:    Was that a death for you?

Emily:    Was that a death? Yes. Yeah, absolutely. I just went with it. I didn't struggle. It was the most graceful, full of grace, segment I may have lived through, yet. You know? I didn't struggle against it all. It was just like, "Okay we've had this time. It's been wonderful and probably somebody else can love you better than I can." Going into this it's like you're turning left and I'm turning right. You know?

 I just went with it. So I am now-

Sarah:     Would you say your work in understanding transformation so well and watching women die to be reborn so much would you say that this is the most graceful breakup you've ever had because you can understand the deep nature of life?

Emily:    I think so. Yeah, I really do.

Sarah:    Yeah. 

Emily:    I really think so. I just had to confront a lot of ageism that I had turned in against myself. I'm 36. I had turned against myself in all these ways I had to get real about. "Oh you're supposed to have somebody in this way by now." You know what I mean? I have seen time and time and time, and time again that healers and mystics and educators and witches and all of these new archetypes that we're bringing out of the woodwork and into the limelight like into the light of everyday existence that when we live true to ourselves. 

    Like Julia Roberts which is totally my spirit animal. They moved to a small town and they leave the go-go-go very masculine set up, and you know this thing rolls out. This archetype New York explaining like that is a myth for something that is true. When you follow your own calling, and you really do it and you live in alignment with your spirit. That's how the soul mate finds us. Could I have a marriage by now that was something a little bit different and I'd still have a really nice life? Of course I could. 

    Would I maybe still enjoy it? Of course I would. Am I going to do that this lifetime? No. Yeah, I do. I think that this understanding, like this break up for me was like, "Oh my god, this is what maturity feels like." Does it hurt? Yes. Absolutely but it also felt so undeniably true that there was peace the whole time. 

Sarah:    That ageism, that self-ageism. We're the same age. When I turned 36 I felt as if my body had betrayed me. I felt like a drowning woman. I was like I'm going to die alone, without a baby even and I was like reaching for men as if they could act like a life raft. Yeah.

Emily:    Then surrender to years of patriarchy. Yeah, yeah, that's not. Yeah. 

Sarah:    Of course when you do work like us. The feminine work I felt like such a fraud that I felt that I was so mean to myself and terrified.    Terrified of being alone. Everybody, they meet you, they find out you're single and they're like, "Are you going to adopt?" That's the third question.

Emily:    Yeah.

Sarah:    It's so, fucking brutal. 

Emily:    It's brutal. Yes.    Yeah, sisterhood is really important. Finding at least one person that sees you clearly and plainly for yourself is really important.   Also, not to judge a book by its cover. It's so untrue. We're fertile wells. We're fertile for much longer than patriarchy would have us believe. Most of the things that we're taught are not true, is what I'm trying to say.

    Living in ritual is beautiful because you can live from the urgings of your own soul. It doesn't have to be ... I think it's so wonderful that we get to uncover what different tribes have done for their rituals and recreate them. My emphasis is always to have the women remember that it should serve you. It should be about you. Your lifestyle should be a song that is the song of your spirit. That calls in everything that you need and more. 

Sarah:    Right, because your tagline is receive everything. Do you truly believe that we can receive everything we dream of? 

Emily:    Yeah, I really do. I feel like if we're in dialogue. I have this meditation series. I really, really do all of the things in this mediation tape. I wake up and I write down a little bit of what my dreams ... my dreams are always educating me always speaking to me. I really feel like if you're in dialogue with your spirit, your spirit and your soul and the universe naturally want it all for you. It's natural. It's only when our ego, which, for all of us, myself included. It is sticky. It is sticky, heavy constant work to get out of that but our ego and our cultural conditioning gets us making decisions from fear and unreasonable expectations and demands. When we live that way everything looks scarce.  That is not the way. We don't have to be there. Yes, I think that we can have it all when we live in alignment with our spirit. 

Sarah:    One of the reasons receiving is so hard is because it takes a deep trust of magic and mystery and life itself, right? To open up like that. That, for me, I've been asked the last two days, heavily by my spirit. "You know, you have got to trust me about life and stuff. You've got to trust me. You have to trust in magic again, Sarah, for this to work. Whatever this is it feels like this crossing of a threshold that I'm at. For this to work, Sarah you have got to trust. Which is letting go. Which is way harder than holding on. 

Emily:    It's way harder than holding on but if you think about holding like our soul is holding a big bag of spiritual groceries, you cannot hold everything at once. In order to pick up something new we have to put the old stuff down. 

Sarah:    Right.

Emily:    I feel like receiving is about, first of all, to be receptive you do have to be strong. You have to know what you want. Take the time to feel into what you want. Research what you might want. Try out some things. It's a whole process. It's not just like, most of us, myself included, at times, don't know what we want and there's so much pressure around us. There needs to be a lot of very compassionate research time on figuring out what you want. 

    Which could change from day to day and that's fine. Then, you have to be able to use the strong, young energy to say, "This is what I want. I'm okay to say, 'no,' if something comes up to me and that's not what I want.'" Being receptive comes after that. When you're building your comfort level to be able to tolerate the local fisherman for example, when he comes and is the perfect soul mate for you. You thought you were only supposed to be with somebody who earned seven figures and goes to Princeton, but you run with fishermen and you guys start this side business together and you're billionaires in two months and you know what I mean? You can't control the "how" so tightly. 

Sarah:    Right. Right. Your work is very feminine work. How is this feminine work, how do you see it healing others, the planet, yourself?

Emily:    I believe that the world is a very, very, dry, arid, nutrient scarce place right now. The Dali Lama has this quote that, "The western woman is going to save the world." I believe that we are the watering cans. You know?

    Sometimes when we are watering the earth around us people are intimidated by us at first. They're like, "What are you doing? I feel like sparkles and a little bit of loss of control when I'm around you." It takes a big, big heart. A lot of beliefs that you are worth doing your own watering can. That's the only way we can nurture and heal those around us. No longer become a place of empty and I do believe that's how this work in this feminine awareness arena will save the world and it is saving the world. 

Sarah:    Thank you for that. Okay, let's walk them through the ritual to strengthen their psychic powers. 

Emily:    Okay, sounds fun. . Our brain registers our past and what we're shifting away from on the left side. Our brain registers what we're creating and what we're moving into on our right side. You'll notice when you're talking with somebody or just notice with yourself when you're thinking about the future your eyes, which are called the Transderivational search will shift up and to the right. 

    When you're thinking about something that you're moving away from you tend to have an eye-shift to the left. On your left side you want to dial yourself somehow. It could be one fingernail or it could be a ring. Or it could be some henna. It could be anything like one earring that you want to put something on your left side that symbolizes something that you are shifting away from.

    For me, for example, it could be pressure. Maybe I'm going to wear a herkimer diamond bracelet or something like that on my left side because herkimer diamonds, all diamonds, are made under a great deal of pressure to make diamonds. I'm going to wear that on my left side. Or I'm going to get a manicure and have a little diamond rhinestone put on my left fingernail or something. Be really creative. This is a completely appropriate place to channel things that the world calls dramatic or you can take that and channel that into your choice.

    I had a client recently put glitter on the tips of her hair. It was super gorgeous. People do amazing things. That goes on your left-hand side. Every time you look at this accessory or addition design on your left-hand side. You say, "Thank you for getting me to where I am now. Thank you so much for getting me to exactly where I am right now." Because this thing that you're shifting away from would not exist if it hadn't gotten you to where you are right now. It is incorporating, acknowledging and accepting this model that you have outgrown. It's also accepting that when our models of existence and behaviors stops working. That's not a bad thing. That's actually a really good thing, right?

    It's appreciating this whole model that I built for who I am, how I roll, what I do has stopped working and now I'm in the dark and it's awesome. Thank you so much for getting me to this point. On your right side. Yeah, so awesome. Then on your right side do the same thing but with something that symbolizes the feeling, emphasizing the word "feeling" of what you're shifting toward. 

    For me, recently that's been safety. I want to feel this real, true safety that is so rare for a woman to actually feel that kind of safety in the world. And fun. Safety and fun. I'll put something on my right hand side and right now it's henna. A little henna painting on my arm, it's about safety and fun. 

    When you look at that right side thing it could be a broach. It could be I like working with manicures a lot because I think color therapy is super strong. It could be like you do a little rhinestone or glitter around your eye makeup. It's very flexible. You want to look at that and say, "Thank you for seeing me and bringing me along with you." A nod to your future self.

Sarah:    The left is the past and the right is the future?

Emily:    Left is the past right is the future. 

Sarah:    Thank you for getting us to there.  does that. Yeah. Thank you for getting me to where I am, which is if we can see it now it's already past.

Emily:    Exactly.

Sarah:    The future is the dream of the new self that you're ready to step into. Or something specific. Like I'm in love now, or I'm safe now, or I'm abundant now. I'm rich now. Okay. 

Emily:    Yeah. It's okay for the future thing even if you don't have a clear idea where you're going yet? Even if you can grab, like I wasn't kidding when I said Julia Roberts is my spirit animal. You can grab from film or art of celebrity life. Grab something that feels like it just has the feeling of what you want to go toward. 

Sarah:    Beautiful. Okay. Emily they can find you to create ritual and manifestation at lifemanifestation.com, right? 

Emily:    Yes. I wanted to extend a special offer to anyone who wants to. If you join the newsletter at lifemanifestation.com and then contact me afterwards. First of all you'll get a free eBook on central manifestation. How to manifest with your body. You'll get the first in the "I Receive" Meditation Series. We can have a free, ten-minute call together and figure out if we're a good fit to do a little work together. If we decide to work together I will offer an expanded discount for you coming from the Coven Conversations tribe and group. 

Sarah:    Wonderful. Thank you so much.

Emily:    Yeah. 

Sarah:    I felt like I sort of danced around the cave for a while and then I entered the dark cave with you and I was so glad to get in there with you. Yeah, thank you. A little bit of foreplay and then some good conversational sex. Thank you so much. I can't wait to work with you and I'm ready to receive girl.

Emily:    It sounds like you are. It's such an honor to be a part of these conversations and I feel very blessed that you included me, thought to include me and I'm so thankful for everyone who's listening tonight. I hope that it added some value to your life and everything you're going through and I want you to know that everything you're feeling and everything you're going through is extraordinary and priceless and worthy of being treasured and explored with curiosity and love. 

Sarah:    Beautiful. Thank you, Emily. 

PART II. Energetic Healer & Sex Coach Liz Davis. 


Sarah:    Now we have Liz. Liz are you there? You might have to hit star, star. Right? Are you there?

Liz:    Can you hear me? 

Sarah:     Hey, girl. Hello. 

Liz:    Hi, can you hear me? I've been listening in awe for the last hour about you guys talking about just all different, incredible everything. Thank you so much for inviting me to add to this already fantastic call. I'm so honored to be here.

Sarah:    Yeah. Last week I was like I knew what I was talking about with witches and this week I really had to sit back and learn so much from Emily. Receiving, part of the problem with the feminine movement is that women that are wanting so badly to bring the feminine to the planet they end up being masculine and stop receiving. We have this dream and vision because we're so do, do, do that we actually forget to be in our feminine once in a while. That happens to me a lot. I learned a lot from Emily tonight.

Liz:    I did, too. Thank you, Emily. 

Sarah:    You are, right now in Austin right? Is that where you are?

Liz:    Yes. Yes. I'm in Austin, Texas. 

Sarah:    You've not always been in Austin. You were actually in New York City, as well, right? 

Liz:    Yes I was. I grew up in Pennsylvania and I went to college in Wisconsin so I've been all over a little bit. 

Sarah:    You had a lot of women on this call have lived the New York life. The very fast-paced surface life, right?

Liz:    Oh, yeah.

Sarah:    Do you want to tell us a little bit about what you were doing in New York? 

Liz:    I was in fashion. I was in fashion PR and modeling. My ex-boyfriend is a very successful designer to this day and I was very much in the fashion world. My first night there it was fashion week and I was at the Gucci runway show and yeah, I was very much in that life, in a big way. 

Sarah:    You weren't very happy.

Liz:    I was extremely unhappy. Society tells us that this celebrity worshiping lifestyle is the ticket to your happiness and I remember being at Britney Spears' birthday party and being like, "This is horrible." This is not making me happy at all. I just started to numb out even more and to numb out my sensitivities to energy and basically started creating this calcified world through materialism and self-worth through my relationships with men. 

Sarah:    And drugs.

Liz:    Right. 

Sarah:    I've been through both of those. 

Liz:    Yeah. 

Sarah:    It lead me to deep blackness of despair. 

Liz:    Yeah. Yes. 

Sarah:    I want to get to that in a second but what we're talking about is that society or this culture has programmed success as fame and fortune, basically, right? 

Liz:    Yeah. Definitely. 

Sarah:    That's a trap, because it's not real. For some reason Robin Williams keeps coming up. This man that could make millions of dollars more famous than anybody on the planet. Could make everyone happy but himself, right?

Liz:    Yeah.

Sarah:    Society keeps giving us examples of famous people who are deeply unhappy. Yet we keep going. If I get famous and rich I'm going to be happy. It's so deeply programmed and that's what a lot of people in New York and LA chase that. Until they either wake up or they chase it for their whole lives and at the end of their life they realize it wasn't what made them happy. What do you think success is?

Liz:    Feeling connected to your creator. Living a purposeful life of service. 

 As you serve the whole, you also serve yourself. That is, I think, the ultimate freedom is to be living in that space of sheer purpose and potentiality and serving. When we give ourselves to others and allow them to give back to us it's like a beautiful balance of magic and synchronicity. The main thing is, is keeping that giving and receiving like you guys were talking about. The Yin and the Yang energy and when you keep that balance that's really mastering the energy within. 

    To me, that's really what success is, is mastering not just the Yin but also the Yang and combining them and using them in a relationship and purposefully directing the energy into creating your own heaven on earth. 

Sarah:    Right. Yeah. 

Liz:    Using your experiences, no matter how gnarly they are to rewrite your story. You can either let it break you and identify with it and really be in that victim space? Or you say this happened and it does not define me and I'm moving past it. 

Sarah:    Right. Right. In fact those dark moments when life convenes to "make or break you." Those are, that's the place of beginning, really. That insane ending. You had it. You hit a wall like that. You had you were realizing you were doing a lot of cocaine right? I sniffed a lot of stuff up my nose in back stages so we're on the same page.

Liz:    Yeah. Yeah. I mean my last brush with cocaine, actually, spirit hit my elbow. I was in a bathroom stall, completely alone and I knew I shouldn't be doing it. It was already feeling really misaligned with me and I took the key up to my nose to do a key bump and something hit my elbow and made me stab the inner part of my nose, I know that's graphic, you guys.

Sarah:    Oh my gosh.

Liz:    I stabbed my nose. Nothing like I have never had a nosebleed since then or ever and that was my first nosebleed and I started gushing blood. 

Sarah:    Wow.

Liz:    It was just ridiculous out of my nose and nothing gnarly happened. It was a shock moment that like, "What are you doing?" 

  What are you doing? And basically went to this meditation class. ISHTA Yoga for you guys in New York you might know it. Alan Finger's yoga studio. I went to his meditation class and in that meditation I called seven boxes. When I had left the studio. I was there when the market crashed and I had lost my job. I was searching for a job and having to go out and integrating and partying more to try to get a job. You know how that is in the city. I just came to this realization in that meditation that if I don't have this job I'm just going to get these seven boxes and I'm going to leave. I didn't get the job. On my way home I got seven boxes which is my numerology number. Packed up all my shit and left. I had my first full reiki treatment about a week later, back home in Pittsburgh. That's when my life started to really shift and transform. My family was very worried about me at that point in my life. Right?

Sarah:     Everybody is worried about you and they don't make eye contact at Christmas and it's like if you're doing okay for a second, they're like "We're so glad you're doing all right." Which means, normally they don't think you are and, yeah.

Liz:    You know like, oh, make a comment like, "Which one are you dating now?" 

Sarah:    I'm the same, you know.

Liz:    I remember bringing a DJ home during Thanksgiving that was wearing like the tightest pants ever. It was like pubes just coming out. 

Sarah:    Oh, god.    I put the brakes on men then after I got home last Christmas and I was standing at the buffet table and this woman, we just talked about a women in her Crone Zone where she's just not making nice. She said, "Where's the latest?" Really loud in front of everybody. I said, "We broke up." She said, "Isn't that just the story of your life?" 

Liz:    Wow.

Sarah:   At first I was so angry but it was the truth. It was the fucking truth. It was like, yeah.

Liz:    Man, that is my story. 

Sarah:    So, this reiki treatment was the first sort of healing treatment that you'd been too? Had you gone there before?

Liz:    I had gotten my astrology chart read and was open to spirituality. I wasn't raised religiously. My mom was always more spiritual but it wasn't like I didn't grow up with any kind of mysticism. I was actually kind of a doubter. I remember seeing an article that J-Lo did crystal healing and reiki, and I was like, "Oh, my god. What a bitch." So over the top, getting crystals all over her.

    My dad's girlfriend who did the healing for me she actually had breast cancer and had healed herself, naturally. She was the person that did this healing with me and we actually did something that's called a crystal surgery. It's kind of a mix of a classic past life readings with you're working with angels and multiple dimensions of space and time. A lot of different issues. You're opening up your chakras and the traumas that are within them. When I was under I thought it was like thirty minutes or something? When I came out of, literally a surgery, it had been three hours.

    I think I told you about this, too. When I was done with the session I sat up and in that moment my father walked in and I was like, "Did she tell you about everything?" Because she told me everything that had happened in the past life. He said, "Yes." He let me ball on him. I soaked his entire shirt with tears. It was years of frustration. Of being weird as a kid and shoving it down to be cool and be a cheerleader and to be a party girl. It was literally a combination of I think twenty years basically of faking it. Then it broke free.

    That wasn't the only thing that I had to do. That was just definitely the pin drop moment. Where I was like, "Oh, my god, this is what I want to do. This is what I want to give back to the world. This is what people need to shift." I was always smart enough and bullshitted psychiatrists and I always knew what to say to get them off my back with my eating disorders and my relationship stuff and you can't hide from energy work. It's all there.

Sarah:    Right. 

Liz:    It's all in your system. That's why I feel so passionate about it, is because you can't hide from it. 

Sarah:    But I'm amazed that, I'll drop a parallel because I had the fast-paced New York life. The partying. The new, rock star boyfriend every weekend. People were really worried about me and I was terrified but didn't have any way to get help. I'd been to therapists my whole life and bullshitted them for whatever I needed whether it was more Prozac or to get them off my back or whatever. 

    I was too good with words. I could lie very well. I came from a long line of psychiatrists and my father didn't seem happy so it didn't seem like it worked. I didn't trust them, and then I went into a reiki session and after ten years without my mother was taken to her laugh in heaven so viscerally I could feel her nails through my hair. 

    When I woke up out of it you know it was an hour session and yeah, it was like all the years of talk therapy didn't get me to that place of healing that half-n-hour on that woman's table in Park Avenue had gotten me to. Yeah, I couldn't, you can't lie with energy. 

Liz:    No.

Sarah:    It was so intense that I didn't go back for a really long time. Then, of course, life demanded I change or die.   You became a healer, but before you became a healer your relationship with men was difficult, right? Will you tell us a little bit about how they treated you? Or how you let yourself be treated by men? 

Liz:    I would say there are two phases of my relationship to men. The thing is my dad just called me so he must have heard me, psychically talk about that story. The first phases of men in high school years, I had the phone just fall out there, y'all. I was the total heart breaker. I didn't care about your healings. I didn't care if I cheated on you. I didn't care if you loved me. I just didn't care. I had these rows of guys. I had them all over the country and one in Europe and I had just like a collection of Tiffany jewelry from these guys that were in total love with me. That I just absolutely destroyed, right? 

    Then there's always that breaking point where you meet your match? The fashion designer that I actually moved to New York for who will remain nameless but he was the first one that shifted everything and I had cheated on him and he felt it, energetically. He dropped me. He said, "I'm not interested in hearing any of your bullshit or your beautifully woven stories. Or your woe is me, my parents are divorced and I just have my stuff. He wasn't interested in any of those things that had served me in wooing these other guys in the past. 

    Then it shifted into finding guys that kept that shaming going on. That's when I started to date the assholes. God love them, too. They all have their purpose, right? Then I started dating these guys because when I moved to New York he actually stopped talking to me and was staying with another girl and I was totally heartbroken. I started going to the club scene and hooking up with bankers and male models and sleep with them hours after meeting them. Then wonder why they didn't want to date me. 

    Even after moving away from New York I met this guy that actually brought me to Austin, Texas. He was very sweet at first, but then he ended up cheating on me, all the time. I was the victim. I was like, "Why are you doing this to me? I love you so much." The one after him did that and so finally this was just in the last two years after I got pregnant and had a miscarriage with this last serious relationship I was in. He shamed me so badly. He told private things. He wouldn't tell his friends that we were hanging out and then I got pregnant and it was just this whole, gnarly thing. 

    I finally was like, okay I need to change something about what I'm doing and how I'm acting and I have all this sexual power, you know? What am I going to do to find this? That's when I found Tantra, basically, and the Egyptian mysteries of wanking your energy and sex magic and the power of the second chakras and really focused in on it and what it can do for you when you start to master this energy. That's really when things started to pick up. I quit my job, rented out my space, had somebody watch my cat and I moved to Hawaii. Then this whole other victim story came in and the guy was like a total creepy. I don't know, it was-

Sarah:    Let me stop you. I want to stop you there for a second, Liz.   The Hawaii incident was a really big turning point for you, too, and just to give our listeners a little understanding it's like basically what I wanted to ask you about Hawaii is when your intuition leads you into something and it turns out "terrible" right? When it turns out traumatic or really hard. That point so Liz got guided to go do a workshop and the guy turned out basically to be a fraud. One of those fraud gurus, right? 

Liz:    Yeah.

Sarah:    Yeah, and so I was guided into a relationship that I really thought was going to heal me and really good for me earlier this year and it turned out quite traumatic. What happened as a woman who like we were talking with Emily when you trust your intuition. You're waking up to your intuition. You trust the signs is that you shut down and stopped trusting yourself, right?   That is, but actually, we were meant to do those things because once again we learn so intensely from the darkness, right? 

Liz:    Oh, yeah. For sure.    I want to say that somewhere in the ethers you gave that person an energetic high-five and you're like, "Let's do this." 

Sarah:    Right. Right. 

Liz:    The other thing that comes into our life is a vibrational match.   To what we're aligning with. That's a hard pill to swallow. 

Sarah:    Yes, it is.

Liz:    Especially when someone "wrongs" you know?

Sarah:    Right.

Liz:    You know what? Somebody told me this when I was going through. They're like, "One day, you're going to hand that guy an Oscar for playing the exact role that you needed him to play." I could not agree more. 

Sarah:    Yes.

Liz:    I'd never be where I am today without that experience. I would have probably never lost my cushy job at Lululemon.  I would have been doing the same thing so it's all good. I'm stronger because of it and I'm able to relate with people more authentically and now I really trust myself. Now I know what that sneaky energy feels like. 

Sarah:    Yeah. Right. Because I was thinking right before we talked, if we didn't know what wrong felt like we wouldn't know what right feels like. We learn through that contrast.

Liz:    Our deepest capacity for sorrow is a mirror image of our direct capacity for joy and love. If you're really sad? That's awesome. That means that you can be that happy. You know?    It's just it's a journey. 

Sarah:    Right. 

Liz:    It's all in your system. That's why I feel so passionate about it, is because you can't hide from it. 

Sarah:        But I'm amazed that, I'll drop a parallel because I had the fast-paced New York life. The partying. The new, rock star boyfriend every weekend. People were really worried about me and I was terrified but didn't have any way to get help. I'd been to therapists my whole life and bullshitted them for whatever I needed whether it was more Prozac or to get them off my back or whatever. 

    I was too good with words. I could lie very well. I came from a long line of psychiatrists and my father didn't seem happy so it didn't seem like it worked. I didn't trust them, and then I went into a reiki session and after ten years without my mother was taken to her laugh in heaven so viscerally I could feel her nails through my hair. 

    When I woke up out of it you know it was an hour session and yeah, it was like all the years of talk therapy didn't get me to that place of healing that half-n-hour on that woman's table in Park Avenue had gotten me to. Yeah, I couldn't, you can't lie with energy. 

   It was so intense that I didn't go back for a really long time. Then, of course, life demanded I change or die. 

Sarah:  You became a healer, but before you became a healer your relationship with men was difficult, right? Will you tell us a little bit about how they treated you? Or how you let yourself be treated by men? 

Liz:    I would say there are two phases of my relationship to men. The thing is my dad just called me so he must have heard me, psychically talk about that story. The first phases of men in high school years, I had the phone just fall out there, y'all. I was the total heart breaker. I didn't care about your healings. I didn't care if I cheated on you. I didn't care if you loved me. I just didn't care. I had these rows of guys. I had them all over the country and one in Europe and I had just like a collection of Tiffany jewelry from these guys that were in total love with me. That I just absolutely destroyed, right? 

    Then there's always that breaking point where you meet your match? The fashion designer that I actually moved to New York for who will remain nameless but he was the first one that shifted everything and I had cheated on him and he felt it, energetically. He dropped me. He said, "I'm not interested in hearing any of your bullshit or your beautifully woven stories. Or your woe is me, my parents are divorced and I just have my stuff. He wasn't interested in any of those things that had served me in wooing these other guys in the past. 

    Then it shifted into finding guys that kept that shaming going on. That's when I started to date the assholes. God love them, too. They all have their purpose, right? Then I started dating these guys because when I moved to New York he actually stopped talking to me and was staying with another girl and I was totally heartbroken. I started going to the club scene and hooking up with bankers and male models and sleep with them hours after meeting them. Then wonder why they didn't want to date me. 

    Even after moving away from New York I met this guy that actually brought me to Austin, Texas. He was very sweet at first, but then he ended up cheating on me, all the time. I was the victim. I was like, "Why are you doing this to me? I love you so much." The one after him did that and so finally this was just in the last two years after I got pregnant and had a miscarriage with this last serious relationship I was in. He shamed me so badly. He told private things. He wouldn't tell his friends that we were hanging out and then I got pregnant and it was just this whole, gnarly thing. 

    I finally was like, okay I need to change something about what I'm doing and how I'm acting and I have all this sexual power, you know? What am I going to do to find this? That's when I found Tantra, basically, and the Egyptian mysteries of waking your energy and sex magic and the power of the second chakras and really focused in on it and what it can do for you when you start to master this energy. That's really when things started to pick up. I quit my job, rented out my space, had somebody watch my cat and I moved to Hawaii. Then this whole other victim story came in and the guy was like a total creepy. I don't know, it was-

Sarah:    Let me stop you. I want to stop you there for a second, Liz.  The Hawaii incident was a really big turning point for you, too, and just to give our listeners a little understanding it's like basically what I wanted to ask you about Hawaii is when your intuition leads you into something and it turns out "terrible" right? When it turns out traumatic or really hard. That point so Liz got guided to go do a workshop and the guy turned out basically to be a fraud. One of those fraud gurus, right? 

Sarah:  Yeah, and so I was guided into a relationship that I really thought was going to heal me and really good for me earlier this year and it turned out quite traumatic. What happened as a woman who like we were talking with Emily when you trust your intuition. You're waking up to your intuition. You trust the signs is that you shut down and stopped trusting yourself, right?  That is, but actually, we were meant to do those things because once again we learn so intensely from the darkness, right? 

Liz:    Oh, yeah. For sure. 

Sarah:    Right? Kind of like-

Liz:    I want to say that somewhere in the ethers you gave that person an energetic high-five and you're like, "Let's do this." 

 The other thing that comes into our life is a vibrational match. 


Sarah:    True. Yeah.

Liz:    It's just it's a journey. 

Sarah:    Right. I think that I've encountered the wounded, very unhealthy masculine this year and I would give him an Oscar, too, because now I understand what that is.    I know the warning signs and I know how it feels. Now I know what the healthy masculine feels like because we learn through that.  How did you learn to trust yourself again after entering that? That's the part that I really want to get into. How do we learn to trust ourselves again after we've led ourselves into something like that? Is that what you're saying? That you learn to trust yourself more? How did that happen?

Liz:    I kept on telling myself that at first, just for this minute, I'm going to trust myself. Just for this hour I'm going to trust myself. I took it slow.  Wrote a lot. Wrote a lot. Writing is a very visceral way of releasing that helps you deprogram your mind. Stops the swirling going on. Pen to paper. Feeling the pen across the pages is super helpful in that process because if you keep it all up in your head and especially if you're just kind of coming into your awakening? You don't necessarily have that friend group right away that, "Hey, I'm feeling this weird sensation. 

    Or, I'm getting this intuance and I'm having these crazy dreams." Writing it down was a huge savior for me. I could let myself get as dark or as sad or whatever and really gave myself permission to go deep with myself. The writing was a huge part of that. Also, establishing some key stone habits. A key stone habit is creating a habit that is your kingpin. No matter what is going on if you do this thing it's typically going to change your mode. For me I love to walk. I'm a walker. I'll always have headphones on, in my purse and take a walk around the block. Or a walk in nature. or talking with my mom is one of my things. One of my key stone habits that uplift me. She is very grounding for me. Maybe it's going to a yoga class. Maybe it's reading. Maybe it's making an amazing pot of tea and listening to that opera. It's whatever it is for you and committing to that at least once a day. Be in total awe of how beautiful life is. 

Sarah:    Even if it's just for one minute?

Liz:    Right. 

Sarah:    Just for today. Just for now. Those are what get us through.    Right. That's one of the reiki mantras is just for today right? That's what I ask myself and others. Just for today can you love yourself? Don't think about tomorrow. Just today can you treat yourself the way you deserve to be treated. With total love.

Liz:       Tomorrow is an illusion. We don't know what tomorrow ... we're not even guaranteed this next breath. Yeah. Putting the magic back into life that we're not guaranteed this next moment. It's not this humdrum cycle. We get into that zone because it appears to be but there's so much magic in every moment. Starting off, incrementally and inviting that awe. Putting that awe back in awesome. That's really what instills this magical, "Woo, it's going to be okay." 

Sarah:    Yeah.

Liz:    Yes, it's going to be great. 

Sarah:    How would you say that you shifted? How is your relationship with men? We've talked about where you really started to feel used for sex and very low worth and low vibration with relationships. How has it shifted? Would you set up the second chakra work that we're going to do tonight?

Liz:    Up until about a month and a half ago I had decided I got really clear that I was no longer going to be having sex or sexual relations with people to just like still avoid?  That was what threw me personally. That was a huge shift for me. My whole thing, yes, was all about second chakras work and reclaiming my orgasm. Not giving away my orgasmic energy to that it has to come from a guy. That self-pleasuring can't be as uplifting and that's when I started to get into the bless work and the meditation and really cultivating that energy and sending it through my entire body. I'm a professional sex coach as well. 

    I'm also working towards getting my doctorate in sexology. I really wanted to marry the science of it with the energetics of it. And deal with the crisis experience that just melts your face off. In that space in walks the most beautiful man I've ever seen in my entire life. Right into my yoga class. I don't know where and he's incredible. He respects the goddess. He's conscious, he's awake. He doesn't do drugs. He respects me. Nothings wrong. All these things that I wanted and it's just like "boom" here it is. 

Sarah:    I would see you as a professional sex coach. Say, hypothetically for a friend that I haven't, that I have, no, as many women and now I'm not laughing anymore. We've been molested. We've been raped. We've had traumatic sexual relationships. We've been shamed through our sexuality. For me it's like after the last traumatic relationship, it's now been eight months, where I'm just like, I've walled myself back up because the relationship kept leading to such despair and trauma. If I went to you as a sex coach what would we, can you walk me through what sort of practices we would do? 

Liz:    Sure. Definitely. First and foremost we have to get you back into the space of feeling sensual. Feeling awakened and not just focusing on our major bits. Tapping into the feeling of dragging your fingers across your skin. Across your arms and behind the knees and the legs. It's bound to get back. Getting back into basics and at the same time, while you're doing that you're saying the intention that as I am touching myself is how my partner will touch me. You're actually doing intentional law of attraction work as you're doing this. That's part of the sex magic, too.   The slowly awakening. Where are you sensitive? Where are you thoughts that you don't feel maybe that you're super confident? For me I always get very sensitive when people touch my belly because my sister's friend shaved me when I was a little girl and I still have like, "He he," I still get nervous. It takes me out of that sensual zone. 

    It's identifying those sensual zones and ones that you have a little bit more sensitivity around. The reason is that when you do meet that person you want to be able to communicate this is what I enjoy. This is what I don't enjoy. The other part is self pleasuring. We're going to do it energetically tonight.  Breathing into it and getting really big and full and letting that energy emanate and penetrate through every bit of yourself. Every one of your cells is ecstatic. Like "Woo." That is the unwinding of the trauma, right? The blocking off. 

    The story of this person takes over. They come on, they disrespect me. Really pooling and sucking the energy out of all former lovers or people that have disrespected you. Pulling that out of that 2nd Chakras that womb space. Also, removing it and being very cautious and removing it from your Yoni, too.   That would be the first steps and then it expands from there. That's a very basic step. 

Sarah:    Turning on ... turning on a woman who's turned herself off. Turning a woman back on, basically.    Yes. Your work. Do you walk through the world sort of turned on? Is that do you walk sensually like is everyday a love affair with life? 

Liz:    Yeah, yeah. The guy that I'm talking to now because he's like, "It looks like you're making love to your life."    I'm feeling the air, the wind across me and it feels like my lovers breath. That really started to happen when I took that time to stop sleeping with people that weren't worth my time. Also doing this intensive self-pleasuring practice. To keep that Yoni energy going. That second chakras, right? It's the energy of creation. Beyond just getting off. It's like it fuels your writing. It fuels your that womb vending quality. Yeah, I'm pretty ecstatic and turned on by life. I love to pet my cats fur and fee how soft and amazingly fluffy he is and that helps me appreciate earth in the physical sense. For the longest time I didn't like being physical. I didn't like feeling heavy. I wanted to be a spirit. I wanted to be non-physical again. I wanted to be floating around in the ethers. The practice of self love and coming into the body and feeling the skin and getting to know myself again, was so powerful. 

Sarah:    Wonderful, right. I really want especially for those of us that feel turned off or shut down. The importance and we're going to talk about this throughout the coven calls. This turning us back on. It turns our light on so we can do our work. It keeps us juicy and feminine and fertile. And it is, the second chakras is our life source energy. Really.   The Egyptians revered it as a key to immortality is harnessing the second chakra energy. 

Sarah:    Beautiful so do you want to dive into this? Self pleasuring.    You can take it from here and get everybody into it. 

Liz:    All right. First I want to clear the space. Regardless of what you heard in the conversation or posts about the orgasmic woman. Clear that from your consciousness and come in to this space with your own sensitivity. Your own experience. I want you to get nice and grounded. Find a nice place. Preferably something even a little bit harder than a cushion. You're really able to feel sit bones plug into the ground. Like you're putting a plug into the socket. Close the eyes, here. 

    We're going to start to breathe into the crown of the head and like a little cyclone here we're going to start to spin this top at the top of the crown. Invite this energy down into our bodies. You're a goddess, creator, spirit, the universe. Whatever your way of defining that is. You're going to essentially invite in energy in. You're going to ask this energy to be your lover. As we invite this energy in to be our lover if you want to set an intention for a relationship that you're currently in or that one that you're trying to cultivate or just let the spark back in. Let's destroy and recreate everything that has been done in the past and invite unlimitless possibilities to come into the now. 

    Really inhale here. We'll count it off. Inhale for one, two, three, four, hold it at the top. Suck in a little bit more air. Beautiful and then exhale. Four, three, two, one. Hold it at the belly. Feel like you have to pee and you have to make yourself stop. You have to lift up on that energy and take a big inhale. Inhale, one, two, three, four, five. Hold it at the top. Suck up that energy from your root. Exhale, five, four, three, two, one. Hold. Lift up from the root. Through your low bellying stage here. Last one together. Inhale up. One, two, three, four, five. Hold. Suck a little bit more air in. Fill yourself get expansive so that shake revisits us. Exhale, five, four, three, two, one. Exhale all the way. 

    Now we're going to be moving in from the ground up. We're starting at that root Chakras, the base of the spine. For all of us ladies I'm just going to say yoni which is the outside of this. Start to pull this energy up from earth's mother. You can feel it drawing up from the bottoms of the feet and then start to draw it up from the bottom of the feet by the same thing again. That root lock. Moga Bunda is what we call it in Yoga. It's what makes you stop peeing in midstream. We're stuck on that. Lift up on that. As you inhale lift up and exhale, release. Inhale lift up and exhale release. Inhale, lift up. Exhale, release. 

    Start to imagine the color red here and notice what your shade of red looks like. Is it more translucent? Or is it like a beautiful piece of dyed silk? That perfect shade red. That blood red. Exhale. Let smoke come out of your mouth and get that beautiful red color. I'm feeling the energy shift to a feeling of being very grounded. That's the first step that we need to do in this second chakras meditation. You need to feel nice and ground. Grounded equals safe. Chakra for the physical world being safe. 

    Put yourself in this bubble of white light and protection breathe into it. If there's any other colors that you resonate that make you feel safe and calm and collected, invite them into your bubble here. Now you'll start to feel this warm, loving feeling. Your shoulders relax down. The breath becomes a little bit more easy. I'm going to ask you to put one hand on your low back. Basically behind your womb space. One hand right on your womb space. If this is hard for your wrist at all you can do it with the back of your palm. 

    You basically want to hold your hands in opposition of each other on your body. Energetically, and whether you're aware of it or not just setting the tension will remove the energy. Get your hands to connect to one another. Like a high-five or a kiss. Again, keep on breathing out that smoky color. Loosen up. Exhales are really fantastic here. Even if you stick your tongue out. Really let it go. Ahhhh. Two more big exhales. Now, slowly in a clockwise position you want to start moving your hands in a circle. It doesn't even have to be that the hands come off of the body. It could be moving the skin around. You're starting to create this spiral. 

    Ground down through your feet. Unlock that energy from your root block. Lift up and then feel this energy from the divine start to come in through your crown. As you lift up and wound down. You are coming up and down now. Up and down. You want to make it spin. Like a chocolate and vanilla ice cream in the summer. Think about ice cream twists. That's your Yin and your Yang energy. 

    As we start to do this. Start to rock forward and back. Forward expanding the chest and exhale back. Inhale and exhale. Rock back. Pull up on the navel, pull up under the [inaudible 01:50:44]. Inhale forward and exhale back. Don't think about it so much. Feel into it. It's a rocking. It's a fluid. It's a liquid emotion. Keep breathing. Start to take your front hand that's resting on your belly and start to move it up the frontline of your body while keeping your hand on the second chakras. Also as they're moving front to back here. 

    Bring it all the way up, beyond your head. Extend your arm up into the air. Then bring that hand back down onto your belly and start all over again. What we're doing is we're stoking the energy and keep on doing this. Every time you come back to the root take your hand off of your body and face it up. If I quick slide my hand up and don't take it off and I bring it back down, I'm bringing the energies out. We're trying to stoke the energy. 

    Lifting the chest. Curling the back like a cat and breathing out. Having your legs together now. Lifting up on that root lock. Closing your eyes. Keep breathing. We're going to imagine the color orange. This beautiful orange here. Breathe into that orange like a beautiful fire. Breathe into the fire and let this fire transmute the second chakras. Give yourself permission to be this fire and out of you. Squeeze your legs together and rock forward and back. We're moving our hand in a circular shape now. We're having a lot of movement going on. It seems a little chaotic but that's what we're doing. We're stoking the energy.

    Energy is all about creation and movement, water, energy. Allow yourself to get really big here. Move your arms. Rock back and forth. Have your legs together. Ground through the heels. Bring that white light in from your crown. Keep going. Keep going. Have your legs together lift up, lift up, lift up, and hold breathe all the way in. Breathe, breathe, breathe. Suck your air in and suspend the breath. Hug your legs together. Touch your tailbone. Lift up feel that shake? Don't run from it bring it up to your heart. Extend your hand out east to west. Lift your heart up to the sky.

    Keep stretching, keep lifting up. Take a big inhale. Hold it. Breathe through the shakes. Take another big inhale. Hold it. Let yourself get as big as possible. And then ground it into that second Chakra. Close your eyes. You've now got this kundalini snake running up and down through the body. We're going to get it to come back into the body for this final little piece of this meditation. Instead of just coming up the head or out of the bottoms of the feet. 

    I want you to bring this energy up from your feet, up through your legs. All the way up through that first Chakra. Your womb space. Your belly button. Come into the heart. Now send it 90 degrees out of the back of the heart and like a big spiral bring it up over the head and come back into the front of the heart and set it up and down into an eight. Sideways eight. The symbol of infinity. Even if it isn't conceptually making sense it's okay. It's a practice. Right? It's an Egyptian Ankh it's basically a cross with a little loop on top. With your arms outstretched. That's what you're doing. You're bringing the energy up and back in. Up and back in. Hugging your legs together lifting up on the root lock. Stick your palms up facing towards the sky. You can take that hand off of your back. 

    Notice how you're sitting. Notice the clarity. I'm hearing clear. No chatter. Think about it. What is it really that you want to choose and cultivate in your life? It doesn't have to be a particular experience. It could be joy that I was talking about earlier or inspiration or static living or a cred. You can be anything you want. Breathe that in. Bring it into that energy child that we have already created. Just rest with it. This energy is so powerful. It comes in many different ways. Not just clitoral or G-spot stimulation. You make orgasm an experience that's ecstatic. Expression in many different ways. 

    We can use this energy to clear ourselves to ground ourselves to make ourself feel good versus going on that binge drinking experience or that cocaine or that guy off of Tinder that you know just wants to sleep with you or whatever it is, right? When you cultivate this satisfaction within you just like when you have that partner. They're going to be coming towards you. You'll have these energy about you. This joy. This juiciness. And [inaudible 01:57:01] around anything is possible. Everything will open up to you when you allow yourself to open up to your sexual power. 

    This is the path of the goddess. Is your mastery of that Yin and that Yang energy. Balancing it and harnessing it. And being masterful with our execution of that energy. You can slowly start to open your eyes and come back into your space. Notice there are extra sparkles to everything. That's that awesomeness that you're looking for. All right. How are you guys feeling? 

Sarah:    Thank you, Liz. I feel like I'm back in touch with my sex life again, which is a big deal.  I was pretty much like I guess you just have sex until you're 35 and then you close down for business. 

Liz:    Use that excitement for something healthy and juicy and beautiful. 

Sarah: Yeah. I've been putting all that creative energy into my work and not into ... I say that I've abandoned my love life like a baby on a battlefield. It's time to direct that second chapter energy towards something creative and beautiful.  Thank you.

Liz:      This will make your life be even more, inspire an article, or presentation or whatever it is that you're doing. Right?  Nobody loves you better than you love you. 

Liz:    When you have that element like I can really make myself feel really incredible people are going to notice it and your life will improve.  Giving yourself major permission to release about that sexual energy. It's really very beautiful and very powerful. 

Sarah:    How can people find you?

Liz:    They can find me on my website. It's lizcdavis.com I have a wonderful three month coaching program that I do with people. It's a three-month journey. We talk every week via Skype. It doesn't matter where you live. We talk about the relationship with the self. The relationships with the sexuality and also, the spiritual element and how you can basically make your life a laughing orgasm. That I was talking about earlier. That's the best way. I'm also on Facebook at Liz Davis Healings. Sarah and I are friends on Facebook. Elizabeth Davis. Instagram, Liz C. Davis. That's basically just my name. 

Sarah:    Yeah. Please check her out. Oh, and you're in the Coven, too. They can find you in there.  This is deep feminine work for the wounded second chakra. How do you see your work healing the word, Liz? 

Liz:    I see my work healing the world as sexuality that is as vital to health and breathing and eating and sleeping. I think that when we release the shame and the hesitation and the fear that we have around our sexuality? We can unlock parts of ourself that we can't even comprehend. That's really my motivation. I also work with men, too because I feel very kindred to men and they need a lot of help, too, so I work with women and men in this journey of exploring the self. That's my ... every day I wake up and I ask, "Goddess, help me serve." Every time I ask, each day, this works. That wasn't like my thought was like, "Oh, yeah, I'm going to be a sex person but that's so needed."

 It's so needed and I feel blessed and so honored to be able to shift this dialogue. It has become kundalini, too, and it's so powerful. It's so incredibly powerful. When you get to the depth of your second chakra energy. Your kundalini.

Sarah:    Osho talks to much about if we had a healthy relationship with sex what a healthier world we'd be in. There would be less porn, less rape, less misogyny. Yes. All of that.    Yeah, this work of the sex priestesses in the time of Egypt, which I know you're really into it's so important to indoctrinate people into a healthy relationship with sex and therefore a healthy world. We're here because of creation energy. It's not dirty. It's not sinful. It's beautiful and it's just comes about as so important. 

Liz:    Yeah. I was one of those ladies in a past life though. 

Sarah:    Oh, I'm sure. 

Liz:    Yeah. I'm coming back for round, whatever. God only knows but yeah, it is and thank you for doing the work that you do, too and providing the space for all of us to like we have a coven, a community or whatever that is and that we can really let our freak fly because it's so amazing to be given permission just to be yourself. Not have to hold back in any way, shape or form. Thank you for doing the work that you do there because you know we wouldn't be here without you. No, yeah. 

Sarah:    Aw. Not being ourself makes us sick.

Liz:    Yes. 

Sarah:    Thank you for being openly sexual and for allowing me to ask questions and come to you for that healing because it's been repressed in my mother's lineage. You didn't talk about sex. You never looked ... if I looked at a man in church I got spanked. It was really intense and really shameful and so healing that lineage for many woman who had who were you never talked about it with people if you had it. You were dirty and bad if you thought about it. It's just it's time to really change that.

Liz:    Yeah. Your lineage is like if they're looking down on you and they want you to heal this. It's now important to proclaim how important it is in living a joyful life. That full, ultimate life. 

Sarah:    Yeah.

Liz:    That would be my wish for everybody is I want them to feel like they're making love at every moment and every day. That's really when the magic can happen in your life. I don't think they're as savvy.

Sarah:    Yeah, I've found that I can't not talk about the witch but a lot of women who are awakening to their feminine or who are deeply feminine like the witch or the priestess or the goddess we're more in our bodies and our senses and therefore just more sexual. We have more sexual energy. People fear it or they keep their boyfriends away from you. Or when you're single, a single woman who's awake to her body and her feminineness. That's what happened to me shaming myself for being such a sexual creature and that hasn't really been healthy. Once again, thank you. 

Liz:    You're so welcome.